Talk:dans

امیر تتلو چرا به ایران نیاید؟

امیر تتلو آیا برای تجاوز نمی‌تواند به ایران بیاید طاها زارع (talk) 12:28, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

RFD discussion: August 2021–May 2024

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dans

RFD "in, into (from outside, to inside)". The example given is mettre l'argent dans la poche, but this reflects the semantics of the verb mettre, not the preposition dans. Not in fr.wikt or larousse.fr.--Tibidibi (talk) 02:24, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Delete. — Fenakhay ^{(تكلم معاي · ما ساهمت)} 02:28, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

• Take out the "(from outside, to inside)" as overly specific, but our entry definitely needs to indicate that dans means not only "in" (statically) but also "into" (with motion). So either merge with sense 1 or keep. —Mahāgaja · talk 07:07, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

@Mahagaja, does je l'ai mis sous la table mean that sous should have a motion-related definition? It feels that the motion is just part of what the verb mettre means. The same goes for other verbs that intrinsically imply motion.--Tibidibi (talk) 07:36, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

It doesn't necessarily have to be separate gloss line starting with #, but there should be at least either usexes or quotes showing both motion-related and static definitions. It's not a given that these will be the same in French, as they can be different in other languages. —Mahāgaja · talk 08:07, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

Yo, but why should English have the same sense at in? How do we distinguish such separate senses from praegnans constructio? Fay Freak (talk) 06:56, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

RFD-deleted. Imetsia (talk (more)) 23:16, 17 May 2024 (UTC)