Talk:fire engine
Latest comment: 5 years ago by Kiwima in topic RFV discussion: July–August 2018
This entry has survived Wiktionary's verification process (permalink).
Please do not re-nominate for verification without comprehensive reasons for doing so.
Sense 2: "Any fire apparatus, such as a fire truck." Sense 1 already is a fire truck, so what else is covered by this? Equinox ◑ 00:21, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- cited. I also gave a different example to the definition, because saying fire truck is, as you pointed out, not useful in distinguishing from sense 1. I also added the qualifier archaic. Kiwima (talk) 01:57, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Is a hook and ladder truck a fire engine? I don't know whether they carry water. Is a plane that drops water or chemical fire retardant on a fire a fire engine? I think that a fire engine has to be a truck that carries equipment or supplies for fighting fires. More specific delineation of equipment and supplies, like water, pumps, hoses, ladders. firemen, halligans, axes, belongs somewhere other than the definition line, IMO. DCDuring (talk) 03:35, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- In modern usage, you are probably right, but the citations I added are basically for water pumping devices that are used in fire fighting, not a truck at all. I deliberately chose cites that did not refer to trucks. Kiwima (talk) 21:29, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that I lost sight of the venue. I'm not satisfied with def. 1, which was not under challenge. DCDuring (talk) 15:16, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
- You might be amused by “fire-engine”, in The Century Dictionary […], New York, N.Y.: The Century Co., 1911, →OCLC.. DCDuring (talk) 15:19, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that I lost sight of the venue. I'm not satisfied with def. 1, which was not under challenge. DCDuring (talk) 15:16, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
- In modern usage, you are probably right, but the citations I added are basically for water pumping devices that are used in fire fighting, not a truck at all. I deliberately chose cites that did not refer to trucks. Kiwima (talk) 21:29, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Is a hook and ladder truck a fire engine? I don't know whether they carry water. Is a plane that drops water or chemical fire retardant on a fire a fire engine? I think that a fire engine has to be a truck that carries equipment or supplies for fighting fires. More specific delineation of equipment and supplies, like water, pumps, hoses, ladders. firemen, halligans, axes, belongs somewhere other than the definition line, IMO. DCDuring (talk) 03:35, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 01:42, 5 August 2018 (UTC)