Talk:shard

RFV discussion: June–July 2020

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shard

Rfv-sense "The name of the Latin-script letter Z" — surjection ⟨??⟩ 15:53, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

The entry izzard¹ in The Century Dictionary and Cyclopedia of 1903, presents an etymological theory of this name for the letter Z (see our izzard), saying that it is “said to stand for s hard”, adding, “but evidence of s hard as a current name for z is lacking“. Could it be that shard is a misreading of s hard – which, however, is apparently not attested in this sense?  --Lambiam 19:16, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

It would be surprising for z to be called "s hard"; given sense 7, subsense 2 of hard#Adjective, /s/ would be the "hard" one and /z/ the "soft" one. —Mahāgaja · talk 20:51, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

For that very reason Walker‘s Critical Pronouncing Dictionary of 1797 already called “s hard” “a groſs miſnomer”.  --Lambiam 10:48, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

RFV-failed Kiwima (talk) 21:14, 11 July 2020 (UTC)